I came across the video below, and thought, considering the ultimate liberal prize is complete and utter control over its denizons, this just makes perfect sense!
Hey 52%, thanks a lot! You know who you are!
You bought into this nonsense, hook, line, and sinker. Personally, I have no desire to revert our country back to pre-Industrial Revolution levels. I like modern conveniences, electricity, I like a warm house.
I have a feeling you do too; so you know what will happen if/when Congress passes a Cap and Trade bill? Higher utility rates, higher unemployment, more expensive THINGS (it takes energy to create ANYTHING; those costs are passed onto the customer).
Way to go, Einsteins...now, it's our turn to clean up your mess.
Thursday, April 8, 2010
Wednesday, April 7, 2010
Symposium: more foreign policy gaffes and political correctness gone wild
Todd Anthony and CodLiverOilGuy (CLOG) discuss yet another foreign policy gaffe from our Dear Leader; or is this yet another calculated scheme to neuter us? We also discuss America's role in the End Times.
Todd: http://hotair.com/archives/2010/04/07/ap-obama-to-delete-references-to-islamic-extremism-from-national-security-policy/
More foreign policy goodness from our Dear Leader…this is yet another example of DL’s 1.) incompetence; 2.) calculated, shrewd maneuvering to either neuter us or make us vulnerable, thus precipitating what I believe to be a move towards martial law.
CLOG: This is going to cost American lives, no doubt whatsoever. Our enemies are not PC and are spitting and laughing at our stupidity even now. We are helping their war effort and making it easier for them to kill us. By blurring the definition of our enemy, we build in automatic military hesitation. Their mission becomes fuzzier and it is harder for them to plan and execute effectively. By adding so much gray, they have to add extra contingencies, also diluting their effectiveness. Why have the best military in the world and then hobble it with PC stupidity?
Is it not amazing how much damage this one man can do? Yesterday he neutered our long standing and effective nuclear policy. Today he puts a hand of friendship out to people who have openly vowed to wipe us from the face of the earth, weakening the cause of liberty and justice in the world. Tomorrow what new havoc will be visited upon us by DL?
It is even more amazing that the electorate put him into power without considering the havoc his ideology can cause. As a nation we really have lost our mojo and our wisdom. We really all need to go back to the rural life where the consequences of each decision are carefully weighed since a wrong decision can cause great misery or even death for you or your family. By being so careless and so shallow (Keeping our gas tank full and our mortgage paid is really the end-goal of all of our lives? Really?) we have voted our doom into office and his name is Barack Obama. At this rate America will be a shell of its former self in only 1019 days. In a best case scenario we will have gas and a roof, but we will be enslaved by an all-consuming, intrusive government. In the worst case scenario there will be no gas and we will be starving in the cold. We made a bad decision and we will pay dearly for it.
Todd: And that question I have is: when will we (“we” being Americans, liberals, independents, etc.) STOP 1.) putting faith in humankind, as we did with THIS GUY; STOP 2.) believing that soothing words will assuage tyrants, madmen, and murderers.
I seethe at the hubris of this man…who does he think he has that he can play LITERALLY with the safety and welfare of the American populace.
CLOG: Ever since the Fall, humanity has been self-centered. We want to determine our own destiny and be our own god. Every person is born this way. In order to be a god, you have to believe in your own innate goodness (or rightness) and have to believe that others are basically good too. The self-centeredness is a fatal flaw in that you are not looking at yourself or others realistically; your self-centeredness demands you ignore your self-centeredness since it is a flaw and gods do not have flaws. So almost everyone works under some form of this delusion. Marxism takes the delusion and applies it to government, that .gov will make everything OK; we just have to follow obediently. Humans always have to believe in a leader. Realistic humans (Christians) realize that our ultimate leader is GOD. Everyone gets stuck at the leader and so have no choice but to believe in them and hope everything will turn out OK in their lifetime. My mother is completely stuck in this rut and no amount of facts will dislodge her because she has no other place to go to place her belief.
Tyrants are very aware of the human need for a leader and that most of the population wants desperately to believe in them. So they clean up their act and appear to be benevolent to stoke everyone’s belief. Once in power, the picture changes dramatically, but then people are stuck and will remain believing even in the face of great suffering or evidence of heinous crimes. Nazi Germany is a prime example.
Most people do not want to admit their faults and even fewer their sins and fewer still become humble before God and serve Him. Jesus taught the latter path and it is the very hardest for humans to follow, hence the narrow gate analogy He used. It is only as each INDIVIDUAL is transformed, that any society has any chance. Socializing transformation corrupts those doing the socialization and impoverishes or even destroys the general population since there is no way to attain ‘equality’ or ‘social justice’ for everyone using this path.
Until the population is 100% Christian (another 1000 plus years at least), people will continue to try to rule using human nature and cause continued grief and destruction. In the meantime, after every destruction and desolation caused by tyranny, we have to institute education to make the young aware of the failed paths from history and more importantly why they failed so they do not make the same mistake. As a society, around the globe, we mostly fail at this task and continue to make the same mistakes over and over and over.
Liberals will never stop trying to transform society via socialization because they believe they have the answer and they will not deviate from their faith. Humanism is a religion that denies being a religion. After the coming great destruction of our society and way of life, I hope we can teach our young the dangers of this thought pattern. So far we have been doing the opposite and our society is crumbling but those doing the crumbling ignore the havoc they wreak and live in their ideological towers, towers that cannot be touched by misery, the wailing of children, or even death itself.
As to your later email comment about how Christians can also be liberals (in fact they are the majority of the Christian community IMO), I think they confuse faith in socialism with faith in God. Much of the socialistic message is about justice for the down-trodden and certainly Jesus was an advocate for the poor and dispossessed. I think they get caught up in the programs to help the poor and doing good works, thinking they are working toward the same ends as Jesus, and do not study the heart of the Gospel or Jesus message that repentance is key and all else is secondary or even meaningless. Without forswearing self-centeredness, nothing real can be achieved. As liberalism has grown in our society, the social message has become prime, burying the gospel message, and people lap it up because it is an easy path to follow and doesn’t require you to give up your self-centeredness. I think the narrow gate is mostly ignored by liberal Christians.
Todd: But how long will we continue to fall for this idiotic, liberal way of reacting to tyrants; when we will ever learn? How many Neville Chamberlain moments does this world require before we finally realize that EVIL PEOPLE exist, and that by pandering to said evil people, they only take advantage of us (at best)?
CLOG: We will always fall into the same trap. Though we record and even study history, we NEVER (maybe I’ll grant a seldom here since there may have been one society that learned somewhere in time) learn from it. History is dully repetitive on this point. Humans are incredibly stubborn in wanting to cling to their self-centeredness and the sin and evil overcome the societies – always. It is an eternal cycle and demonstrates conclusively the brokenness of our nature. Of course, most won’t admit that and so the cycle repeats.
This is why Jesus has to return. At one coming point in history (soon, I hope), this behavior will lead to the complete destruction of the planet and our extinction if He does not step in. We will cling to our selfishness even at the cost of our entire species.
We are a stupid, stupid people.
Todd: “This is why Jesus has to return. At one coming point in history (soon, I hope), this behavior will lead to the complete destruction of the planet and our extinction if He does not step in. We will cling to our selfishness even at the cost of our entire species. ”
After reading an article where BO is basically telling Israel the terms of a peace plan (what they CAN and CANNOT accept), I wonder if the above scenario could be hastened by something our DL would precipitate (oh I don’t know…invasion perhaps?)…
CLOG: Oh, DL is playing his role, all right. One glaring omission from Bible prophecy is any mention of the USA. We do not play a significant role in the End Times. Many authors say this can’t be so and contort the Bible to fit us in but I don’t buy it. We aren’t there more than likely because we have declined from superpower status and are no longer a major player on the world stage. DL’s actions are hastening our demise and when our stabilizing influence is lost on the world as we collapse, that is when (IMO) major wars and destabilizations break out. As you suggest, this will probably begin with Israel and Iran and DL’s pressures will insure that Israel will probably have to go it alone, may botch the attack, and then all of her Muslim neighbors will have the perfect excuse to attack her. They certainly have nothing to fear from Obama who has hinted his support of Muslim aims and no love lost with Israel.
As far as history rewriting, the victor always rewrites history to make themselves look good. Much of history is completely lost too due to book burnings and looting and such.
Todd: http://hotair.com/archives/2010/04/07/ap-obama-to-delete-references-to-islamic-extremism-from-national-security-policy/
More foreign policy goodness from our Dear Leader…this is yet another example of DL’s 1.) incompetence; 2.) calculated, shrewd maneuvering to either neuter us or make us vulnerable, thus precipitating what I believe to be a move towards martial law.
CLOG: This is going to cost American lives, no doubt whatsoever. Our enemies are not PC and are spitting and laughing at our stupidity even now. We are helping their war effort and making it easier for them to kill us. By blurring the definition of our enemy, we build in automatic military hesitation. Their mission becomes fuzzier and it is harder for them to plan and execute effectively. By adding so much gray, they have to add extra contingencies, also diluting their effectiveness. Why have the best military in the world and then hobble it with PC stupidity?
Is it not amazing how much damage this one man can do? Yesterday he neutered our long standing and effective nuclear policy. Today he puts a hand of friendship out to people who have openly vowed to wipe us from the face of the earth, weakening the cause of liberty and justice in the world. Tomorrow what new havoc will be visited upon us by DL?
It is even more amazing that the electorate put him into power without considering the havoc his ideology can cause. As a nation we really have lost our mojo and our wisdom. We really all need to go back to the rural life where the consequences of each decision are carefully weighed since a wrong decision can cause great misery or even death for you or your family. By being so careless and so shallow (Keeping our gas tank full and our mortgage paid is really the end-goal of all of our lives? Really?) we have voted our doom into office and his name is Barack Obama. At this rate America will be a shell of its former self in only 1019 days. In a best case scenario we will have gas and a roof, but we will be enslaved by an all-consuming, intrusive government. In the worst case scenario there will be no gas and we will be starving in the cold. We made a bad decision and we will pay dearly for it.
Todd: And that question I have is: when will we (“we” being Americans, liberals, independents, etc.) STOP 1.) putting faith in humankind, as we did with THIS GUY; STOP 2.) believing that soothing words will assuage tyrants, madmen, and murderers.
I seethe at the hubris of this man…who does he think he has that he can play LITERALLY with the safety and welfare of the American populace.
CLOG: Ever since the Fall, humanity has been self-centered. We want to determine our own destiny and be our own god. Every person is born this way. In order to be a god, you have to believe in your own innate goodness (or rightness) and have to believe that others are basically good too. The self-centeredness is a fatal flaw in that you are not looking at yourself or others realistically; your self-centeredness demands you ignore your self-centeredness since it is a flaw and gods do not have flaws. So almost everyone works under some form of this delusion. Marxism takes the delusion and applies it to government, that .gov will make everything OK; we just have to follow obediently. Humans always have to believe in a leader. Realistic humans (Christians) realize that our ultimate leader is GOD. Everyone gets stuck at the leader and so have no choice but to believe in them and hope everything will turn out OK in their lifetime. My mother is completely stuck in this rut and no amount of facts will dislodge her because she has no other place to go to place her belief.
Tyrants are very aware of the human need for a leader and that most of the population wants desperately to believe in them. So they clean up their act and appear to be benevolent to stoke everyone’s belief. Once in power, the picture changes dramatically, but then people are stuck and will remain believing even in the face of great suffering or evidence of heinous crimes. Nazi Germany is a prime example.
Most people do not want to admit their faults and even fewer their sins and fewer still become humble before God and serve Him. Jesus taught the latter path and it is the very hardest for humans to follow, hence the narrow gate analogy He used. It is only as each INDIVIDUAL is transformed, that any society has any chance. Socializing transformation corrupts those doing the socialization and impoverishes or even destroys the general population since there is no way to attain ‘equality’ or ‘social justice’ for everyone using this path.
Until the population is 100% Christian (another 1000 plus years at least), people will continue to try to rule using human nature and cause continued grief and destruction. In the meantime, after every destruction and desolation caused by tyranny, we have to institute education to make the young aware of the failed paths from history and more importantly why they failed so they do not make the same mistake. As a society, around the globe, we mostly fail at this task and continue to make the same mistakes over and over and over.
Liberals will never stop trying to transform society via socialization because they believe they have the answer and they will not deviate from their faith. Humanism is a religion that denies being a religion. After the coming great destruction of our society and way of life, I hope we can teach our young the dangers of this thought pattern. So far we have been doing the opposite and our society is crumbling but those doing the crumbling ignore the havoc they wreak and live in their ideological towers, towers that cannot be touched by misery, the wailing of children, or even death itself.
As to your later email comment about how Christians can also be liberals (in fact they are the majority of the Christian community IMO), I think they confuse faith in socialism with faith in God. Much of the socialistic message is about justice for the down-trodden and certainly Jesus was an advocate for the poor and dispossessed. I think they get caught up in the programs to help the poor and doing good works, thinking they are working toward the same ends as Jesus, and do not study the heart of the Gospel or Jesus message that repentance is key and all else is secondary or even meaningless. Without forswearing self-centeredness, nothing real can be achieved. As liberalism has grown in our society, the social message has become prime, burying the gospel message, and people lap it up because it is an easy path to follow and doesn’t require you to give up your self-centeredness. I think the narrow gate is mostly ignored by liberal Christians.
Todd: But how long will we continue to fall for this idiotic, liberal way of reacting to tyrants; when we will ever learn? How many Neville Chamberlain moments does this world require before we finally realize that EVIL PEOPLE exist, and that by pandering to said evil people, they only take advantage of us (at best)?
CLOG: We will always fall into the same trap. Though we record and even study history, we NEVER (maybe I’ll grant a seldom here since there may have been one society that learned somewhere in time) learn from it. History is dully repetitive on this point. Humans are incredibly stubborn in wanting to cling to their self-centeredness and the sin and evil overcome the societies – always. It is an eternal cycle and demonstrates conclusively the brokenness of our nature. Of course, most won’t admit that and so the cycle repeats.
This is why Jesus has to return. At one coming point in history (soon, I hope), this behavior will lead to the complete destruction of the planet and our extinction if He does not step in. We will cling to our selfishness even at the cost of our entire species.
We are a stupid, stupid people.
Todd: “This is why Jesus has to return. At one coming point in history (soon, I hope), this behavior will lead to the complete destruction of the planet and our extinction if He does not step in. We will cling to our selfishness even at the cost of our entire species. ”
After reading an article where BO is basically telling Israel the terms of a peace plan (what they CAN and CANNOT accept), I wonder if the above scenario could be hastened by something our DL would precipitate (oh I don’t know…invasion perhaps?)…
CLOG: Oh, DL is playing his role, all right. One glaring omission from Bible prophecy is any mention of the USA. We do not play a significant role in the End Times. Many authors say this can’t be so and contort the Bible to fit us in but I don’t buy it. We aren’t there more than likely because we have declined from superpower status and are no longer a major player on the world stage. DL’s actions are hastening our demise and when our stabilizing influence is lost on the world as we collapse, that is when (IMO) major wars and destabilizations break out. As you suggest, this will probably begin with Israel and Iran and DL’s pressures will insure that Israel will probably have to go it alone, may botch the attack, and then all of her Muslim neighbors will have the perfect excuse to attack her. They certainly have nothing to fear from Obama who has hinted his support of Muslim aims and no love lost with Israel.
As far as history rewriting, the victor always rewrites history to make themselves look good. Much of history is completely lost too due to book burnings and looting and such.
Tuesday, April 6, 2010
Symposium topic: Obama's neutering of America
Todd and CodLiverOilGuy (CLOG) discuss the Obama's latest foreign policy maneuvers: declaring that the United States would not retaliate against a nation from where a chemical or biological was initiated, as well as Obama's decision to reduce our missile stockpile.
Todd: http://hotair.com/archives/2010/04/06/wh-tacitly-accepts-missile-defense-limits-of-russians-on-start/
I wonder; can this guy do ANYTHING right on foreign policy? It’s one concession after another; yet another emasculation…
This HAS to be a concerted effort to neuter us, don’t you think?
Furthermore, this is par for the course with this guy…just yesterday, the White House basically states that we won’t retaliate in the event of a chemical or biological attack. Why don’t we just 1.) tell the terrorists that we give up; 2.) hand our b*lls to them right now?
CLOG:
The redefining of our nuclear policy has me furious. You said it 100% about handing our sack over to our enemies and surrendering. Much of the deterrent power of nuclear weapons is never knowing what it will take to have one launched against you so you do little or nothing to risk it. The system is proven and works fantastically. Now DL wants to scrap that and DEFINE when we will use them and that in some situations we probably will NOT use them. Talk about setting us up for a terrorist attack.
This has to be a well-thought out move on DL’s part. I cannot see anyone being this stupid. Our military must have gone apoplectic upon hearing this. Does this border on treason? It’s one thing to leave our southern border unguarded and letting illegals flow back and forth. It is quite another to let our guard down and open us up to a chem or bio attack. This is absolutely irresponsible.
As to START, it’s more of the same. Why are we giving the Ruskies an advantage after decades of research and billions invested in our nuclear arsenal? We cannot change the FACT that we live in a nuclear armed world and we must do EVERYTHING we can to make sure these weapons are never used in anger. By backing down, DL is INCREASING the chances of their use. It is 1020 days until this clown is gone. By his irresponsible actions, we might see one or more major terror events on our soil before then and we can place the blame squarely on his shoulders as the result of these poor decisions.
Todd: Exactly; you said it…here’s what we can glean from this man’s actions:
He thinks that because, in his mind, he’s smarter than George Bush, he’s going to be able to assuage our enemies with soothing words.
He thinks that, because he is now president, our enemies no longer hate us.
THUS, he’s essentially left us open to an emboldened jihadist, as well as a more brazen Russia and China. MOREVER, our allies presumably doubt whether they can count on us. I absolutely believe this is a calculated maneuver on Dear Leader’s part. He’s doing this intentionally, in a long series of moves to strip us of our superpower status.
And this is just on the foreign policy front; he’s neutering, or at best, making us irrelevant, right before our very eyes. His goal is to make us ordinary, on the world stage. While many people are having eye-opening experiences because of this man’s plots, many more still drink the O-ADE and cling to the “HopenChange” bullshit.
I’ve said this several times, but if we’re attacked, I absolutely think DL and the Acolytes need to be held legally accountable (as you mentioned: TREASON).
From Hot Air:
It’s not just being “out-of-touch,” it’s being intentionally negligent when it comes to our national defense.
CLOG: < the O-ADE > I like this phrase. I might be borrowing it in the future.
I agree with you, the HA author is being too nice. These are calculated political moves to weaken our country and somehow by becoming weaker we are now more ‘equal’ and the world will love us. That is just royal BS and no such thing will happen. As soon as we show weakness, we will be stomped on. The world is jealous of our EARNED superpower status (again, DL thinks that status was not obtained legitimately but on the backs of the poor) and they will use any opportunity to bring us down. Neville Chamberlain is currently remembered as the biggest appeaser in history. I wonder if he will be replaced by DL because of his actions.
Also note that in addition to crippling us on the foreign affairs stage, he will next be crippling us with crap and poop. If he cannot get the bill through Congress, he may bypass them, and use the EPA’s regulatory powers to begin imposing CO2 controls on our energy providers, driving prices through the roof. Again, the exact wrong thing to do in the early days of GD2. I swear he is trying to institute the feudal system in America. We threw one royal off our shores that tried this in the Revolutionary War? Has another crept into the WH and we have to do it once more?
Todd: Guy, that’s exactly point…we’ve been there, done that (see: Revolutionary War), not we’re anxious to re-institute another tyranny? What the hell has happened to this country? I can tell you actually: 50% of its citizens are fat and jiggly and are content with the rest of us footing THEIR bill, so they can collect welfare and watch satellite TV.
As for “crap and poop,” while that would be another completely depressing piece of legislation, I would think that would be easier to repeal than Health Care, especially if the EPA circumvents Congress and merely enacts by FIAT.
“Has another crept into the WH and we have to do it once more?”
I’m absolutely convinced this is the case…this is all intentional, criminal neglect on his part; he’s setting us up for an attack, economic crisis, etc, so he can declare martial law.
Todd: <50% of its citizens are fat and jiggly and are content with the rest of us footing THEIR bill, so they can collect welfare and watch satellite TV.> LOL. You paint a GREAT picture here but one that is unfortunately very true. It is also interesting that the most obesity in this country can be found in its poorest states. In the past this would have been a source of great shame but no longer. America has lowered the bar and no longer asks her citizens to be responsible or bear their fair share. Uncle Sugar indeed has corrupted all too many with easy money and soothing words…and, of course, 200 channels of hi-def TV!
I agree that regulations can be repealed easier than HC but they can still do an immense amount of damage over the next 3 years. Way too many segments of our economy are not healthy and cannot afford these higher costs. It is all the more a bitter brew to drink because GW is a complete sham.
I agree that DL may be angling for martial law, provoking the citizenry to extremes so he can shut down what is left of our democratic process. He is playing with fire though. There are too many Americans that will not roll over and once he has made his move, they will make theirs. I do not believe DL has LEO or military support (at least long term), though I wonder if he will try to work around this by asking for UN troops. I hope and pray those desperate times and measures ever occur.
Todd: http://hotair.com/archives/2010/04/06/wh-tacitly-accepts-missile-defense-limits-of-russians-on-start/
I wonder; can this guy do ANYTHING right on foreign policy? It’s one concession after another; yet another emasculation…
This HAS to be a concerted effort to neuter us, don’t you think?
Furthermore, this is par for the course with this guy…just yesterday, the White House basically states that we won’t retaliate in the event of a chemical or biological attack. Why don’t we just 1.) tell the terrorists that we give up; 2.) hand our b*lls to them right now?
CLOG:
The redefining of our nuclear policy has me furious. You said it 100% about handing our sack over to our enemies and surrendering. Much of the deterrent power of nuclear weapons is never knowing what it will take to have one launched against you so you do little or nothing to risk it. The system is proven and works fantastically. Now DL wants to scrap that and DEFINE when we will use them and that in some situations we probably will NOT use them. Talk about setting us up for a terrorist attack.
This has to be a well-thought out move on DL’s part. I cannot see anyone being this stupid. Our military must have gone apoplectic upon hearing this. Does this border on treason? It’s one thing to leave our southern border unguarded and letting illegals flow back and forth. It is quite another to let our guard down and open us up to a chem or bio attack. This is absolutely irresponsible.
As to START, it’s more of the same. Why are we giving the Ruskies an advantage after decades of research and billions invested in our nuclear arsenal? We cannot change the FACT that we live in a nuclear armed world and we must do EVERYTHING we can to make sure these weapons are never used in anger. By backing down, DL is INCREASING the chances of their use. It is 1020 days until this clown is gone. By his irresponsible actions, we might see one or more major terror events on our soil before then and we can place the blame squarely on his shoulders as the result of these poor decisions.
Todd: Exactly; you said it…here’s what we can glean from this man’s actions:
He thinks that because, in his mind, he’s smarter than George Bush, he’s going to be able to assuage our enemies with soothing words.
He thinks that, because he is now president, our enemies no longer hate us.
THUS, he’s essentially left us open to an emboldened jihadist, as well as a more brazen Russia and China. MOREVER, our allies presumably doubt whether they can count on us. I absolutely believe this is a calculated maneuver on Dear Leader’s part. He’s doing this intentionally, in a long series of moves to strip us of our superpower status.
And this is just on the foreign policy front; he’s neutering, or at best, making us irrelevant, right before our very eyes. His goal is to make us ordinary, on the world stage. While many people are having eye-opening experiences because of this man’s plots, many more still drink the O-ADE and cling to the “HopenChange” bullshit.
I’ve said this several times, but if we’re attacked, I absolutely think DL and the Acolytes need to be held legally accountable (as you mentioned: TREASON).
From Hot Air:
“Put simply, this is a big non-sequitur, a fixing of what wasn’t broken in the first place, much like the Obama focus on the START treaty over real threats like Iran and North Korea. It’s almost literally a move from left field, playing on the progressive turf in a game that no one else bothered to play. Only a Leftist would do this thinking it was a move to the middle, and it shows just how out of touch this administration is with the mainstream of American thought.”
It’s not just being “out-of-touch,” it’s being intentionally negligent when it comes to our national defense.
CLOG: < the O-ADE > I like this phrase. I might be borrowing it in the future.
I agree with you, the HA author is being too nice. These are calculated political moves to weaken our country and somehow by becoming weaker we are now more ‘equal’ and the world will love us. That is just royal BS and no such thing will happen. As soon as we show weakness, we will be stomped on. The world is jealous of our EARNED superpower status (again, DL thinks that status was not obtained legitimately but on the backs of the poor) and they will use any opportunity to bring us down. Neville Chamberlain is currently remembered as the biggest appeaser in history. I wonder if he will be replaced by DL because of his actions.
Also note that in addition to crippling us on the foreign affairs stage, he will next be crippling us with crap and poop. If he cannot get the bill through Congress, he may bypass them, and use the EPA’s regulatory powers to begin imposing CO2 controls on our energy providers, driving prices through the roof. Again, the exact wrong thing to do in the early days of GD2. I swear he is trying to institute the feudal system in America. We threw one royal off our shores that tried this in the Revolutionary War? Has another crept into the WH and we have to do it once more?
Todd: Guy, that’s exactly point…we’ve been there, done that (see: Revolutionary War), not we’re anxious to re-institute another tyranny? What the hell has happened to this country? I can tell you actually: 50% of its citizens are fat and jiggly and are content with the rest of us footing THEIR bill, so they can collect welfare and watch satellite TV.
As for “crap and poop,” while that would be another completely depressing piece of legislation, I would think that would be easier to repeal than Health Care, especially if the EPA circumvents Congress and merely enacts by FIAT.
“Has another crept into the WH and we have to do it once more?”
I’m absolutely convinced this is the case…this is all intentional, criminal neglect on his part; he’s setting us up for an attack, economic crisis, etc, so he can declare martial law.
Todd: <50% of its citizens are fat and jiggly and are content with the rest of us footing THEIR bill, so they can collect welfare and watch satellite TV.> LOL. You paint a GREAT picture here but one that is unfortunately very true. It is also interesting that the most obesity in this country can be found in its poorest states. In the past this would have been a source of great shame but no longer. America has lowered the bar and no longer asks her citizens to be responsible or bear their fair share. Uncle Sugar indeed has corrupted all too many with easy money and soothing words…and, of course, 200 channels of hi-def TV!
I agree that regulations can be repealed easier than HC but they can still do an immense amount of damage over the next 3 years. Way too many segments of our economy are not healthy and cannot afford these higher costs. It is all the more a bitter brew to drink because GW is a complete sham.
I agree that DL may be angling for martial law, provoking the citizenry to extremes so he can shut down what is left of our democratic process. He is playing with fire though. There are too many Americans that will not roll over and once he has made his move, they will make theirs. I do not believe DL has LEO or military support (at least long term), though I wonder if he will try to work around this by asking for UN troops. I hope and pray those desperate times and measures ever occur.
Symposium topic: liberalism, ObamaCare, Repeal, Entitlements
Todd Anthony and CodLiverOilGuy (CLOG) discuss repealing ObamaCare in a conversation that touches Obama's secret desire to become "Dear Leader" and impose martial law, entitlements, and the nature of liberalism.
Todd: I came across this article from the National Review Online that discusses Kentucky's successful effort to repeal Kentucky Kare.
CLOG: Can I ask a dumb question here:
Where was this story during the healthcare debate? This is ACTUAL EVIDENCE that Obamacare will not work. Real-world evidence of a state that tried and watched it fail miserably. Why didn’t we see this brought out by conservatives during the debate? Is everyone asleep at the switch? This would have been proof that it wouldn’t work and should have been trumpeted from the house tops.
It took over 10 years to repeal the KY monstrosity so it will probably take over 20 on the national level, all the while watching the system fail with rising costs, poorer service, and fewer covered. This needed to be stopped before it got started and this story might have made a difference.
Hope for a future generation? Yes. Hope for me? No. I get to grow old and just when I need the system it will not be there for me. Dot gov cheats me once more. Do they know how to do anything else anymore in DC?
Todd: Nope, it’s pretty awful…I think a French Revolution could be in store for us down the road.
And that’s a good point…where was this store PRE-health care “BFD” passage? I didn’t see this on ANY of the right-wing blogs at all. Where was Michelle Malkin? Where was Hot Air? Where was Drudge? Where was Pajamas Media?
CLOG: Where were the KY Republicans? They should have been yelling like their house was on fire – This will not work. We tried and it failed. Why weren’t they on TV or sending missives to all of the conservative bloggers or talking to Sarah Palin about this? Man this story could have gotten some traction. Anyway, spilt milk, I guess.
It could be getting ugly all right. Denninger wrote a missive that because .gov has been replacing consumer spending with gvmnt borrowing, when the inevitable fall comes, it will be a mighty fall indeed, much worse than if they had not propped things up with massive public debt. You think the .gov popularity figures are low now, they will hit all time lows, followed perhaps by the people taking to the streets.
Todd: Don’t you think this is playing right into DL’s hands? He’s GOT to be hoping for a bit of an insurrection; THUS, he can then declare martial law, suspend elections, rule by fiat, etc. Don’t you think? Of course, the ramifications of this could be serious bloodshed as well.
I suppose he could care less if, in the annals of history, he’s known as the Ivan the Terrible of the United States.
CLOG: I am sure DL would love an excuse to impose martial law. He can then take over or at least thinks he can. The problem win insurrections is that LEO’s and military are very reluctant to fire on their own people. It’s one thing to take care of hooligans and terrorists and quite another when everyday housewives and business people are rushing the barricades. Pulling that trigger becomes a lot tougher. Also, the populace of the US is fairly well armed and formidable, especially if desperate. Ya, maybe DL could get away with martial law for a while but could he make it stick? I doubt it because he does not understand the people of this country and cannot rule except according to his ideology. His ideology will probably fail him miserably in the face of desperate, independence minded masses of people who will feel betrayed by said ideology, will have lost everything in the second leg down, and are hungry, miserable and cold.
During the opening days of GD1, some WWI veterans stormed DC and were killed. That put an end to the passions and the country sat and waited the Depression out. Do you think that will be the case this time around? I am wondering if the desperation will be that much greater and that reason and sacrifice will prevail this time.
Todd: “During the opening days of GD1, some WWI veterans stormed DC and were killed. That put an end to the passions and the country sat and waited the Depression out. Do you think that will be the case this time around? I am wondering if the desperation will be that much greater and that reason and sacrifice will prevail this time.”
I honestly don’t know, friend, what to expect from the American citizenry…while we know there’s a significant tract of people genuinely PO’ed, we also have approximately half the country that’s fat and jiggly, nursing at the government teat. How will they react when someone proposes to abolish their “milk cow?”
CLOG: I am assuming that the second leg down will include either the end of ALL entitlements or a significant scale back. The second leg down will come when .gov can no longer prop which means she cannot sell any more bonds and tax revenues continue to decline, leading either to default or hyperinflation.
People will be loyal only as long as their belly is full. When ‘what’s theirs’ gets cut off, well…
Todd: This is the basis of DL’s “class warfare” rhetoric. The liberals misguidedly believe they’re defending the rights of “those less fortunate” than us.
CLOG: There are actually 2 classes of liberals: true idealists/ideologues and sociopaths. The first class was characterized by Lenin as the ‘useful idiots’ and are generally the young and the ‘intellectuals’ though I use that term loosely. Lenin, Stalin, and Mao (among a host of others) belong to the second class. This class realizes that socialism/Marxism is a complete scam and unworkable. However, it is a useful doctrine for bamboozling those in the first class and thereby parting them from their money as well gaining their support for political office. I believe DL is in this second class. He uses Marxism purely for political gain. Castro and Chavez are also in this category. They mouth the Marxist words but are only interested in money and power and use this ideology toward those ends. They are of course very careful to never spill the beans that they are no longer ‘true believers’ lest the con be spoiled.
I believe that DL no longer believes in his heart he is doing anything for the poor or unfortunate or even cares to do so. He knows he is gaming the system for himself alone. This is why socialism/Marxism is so dangerous: it opens the door to sociopaths to gain entry to the seats of power. Once there, they are almost impossible to unseat because of the useless idiots keeping them in power. Once these monsters gain power, well, you know the history.
Do you think Pelosi, Reid, and many other Dems truly care about the poor? Maybe once they did but now it is about money and power – at any cost. Any underpriveledged class is now only a pawn used to gain power or money. So there are two levels of pawns here: any victim class and the useful idiot pawns. The sociopaths sit on the top pulling the strings and reaping all of the benefits, throwing just enough morsels to the other pawns to keep the game going.
Todd: I came across this article from the National Review Online that discusses Kentucky's successful effort to repeal Kentucky Kare.
CLOG: Can I ask a dumb question here:
Where was this story during the healthcare debate? This is ACTUAL EVIDENCE that Obamacare will not work. Real-world evidence of a state that tried and watched it fail miserably. Why didn’t we see this brought out by conservatives during the debate? Is everyone asleep at the switch? This would have been proof that it wouldn’t work and should have been trumpeted from the house tops.
It took over 10 years to repeal the KY monstrosity so it will probably take over 20 on the national level, all the while watching the system fail with rising costs, poorer service, and fewer covered. This needed to be stopped before it got started and this story might have made a difference.
Hope for a future generation? Yes. Hope for me? No. I get to grow old and just when I need the system it will not be there for me. Dot gov cheats me once more. Do they know how to do anything else anymore in DC?
Todd: Nope, it’s pretty awful…I think a French Revolution could be in store for us down the road.
And that’s a good point…where was this store PRE-health care “BFD” passage? I didn’t see this on ANY of the right-wing blogs at all. Where was Michelle Malkin? Where was Hot Air? Where was Drudge? Where was Pajamas Media?
CLOG: Where were the KY Republicans? They should have been yelling like their house was on fire – This will not work. We tried and it failed. Why weren’t they on TV or sending missives to all of the conservative bloggers or talking to Sarah Palin about this? Man this story could have gotten some traction. Anyway, spilt milk, I guess.
It could be getting ugly all right. Denninger wrote a missive that because .gov has been replacing consumer spending with gvmnt borrowing, when the inevitable fall comes, it will be a mighty fall indeed, much worse than if they had not propped things up with massive public debt. You think the .gov popularity figures are low now, they will hit all time lows, followed perhaps by the people taking to the streets.
Todd: Don’t you think this is playing right into DL’s hands? He’s GOT to be hoping for a bit of an insurrection; THUS, he can then declare martial law, suspend elections, rule by fiat, etc. Don’t you think? Of course, the ramifications of this could be serious bloodshed as well.
I suppose he could care less if, in the annals of history, he’s known as the Ivan the Terrible of the United States.
CLOG: I am sure DL would love an excuse to impose martial law. He can then take over or at least thinks he can. The problem win insurrections is that LEO’s and military are very reluctant to fire on their own people. It’s one thing to take care of hooligans and terrorists and quite another when everyday housewives and business people are rushing the barricades. Pulling that trigger becomes a lot tougher. Also, the populace of the US is fairly well armed and formidable, especially if desperate. Ya, maybe DL could get away with martial law for a while but could he make it stick? I doubt it because he does not understand the people of this country and cannot rule except according to his ideology. His ideology will probably fail him miserably in the face of desperate, independence minded masses of people who will feel betrayed by said ideology, will have lost everything in the second leg down, and are hungry, miserable and cold.
During the opening days of GD1, some WWI veterans stormed DC and were killed. That put an end to the passions and the country sat and waited the Depression out. Do you think that will be the case this time around? I am wondering if the desperation will be that much greater and that reason and sacrifice will prevail this time.
Todd: “During the opening days of GD1, some WWI veterans stormed DC and were killed. That put an end to the passions and the country sat and waited the Depression out. Do you think that will be the case this time around? I am wondering if the desperation will be that much greater and that reason and sacrifice will prevail this time.”
I honestly don’t know, friend, what to expect from the American citizenry…while we know there’s a significant tract of people genuinely PO’ed, we also have approximately half the country that’s fat and jiggly, nursing at the government teat. How will they react when someone proposes to abolish their “milk cow?”
CLOG: I am assuming that the second leg down will include either the end of ALL entitlements or a significant scale back. The second leg down will come when .gov can no longer prop which means she cannot sell any more bonds and tax revenues continue to decline, leading either to default or hyperinflation.
People will be loyal only as long as their belly is full. When ‘what’s theirs’ gets cut off, well…
Todd: This is the basis of DL’s “class warfare” rhetoric. The liberals misguidedly believe they’re defending the rights of “those less fortunate” than us.
CLOG: There are actually 2 classes of liberals: true idealists/ideologues and sociopaths. The first class was characterized by Lenin as the ‘useful idiots’ and are generally the young and the ‘intellectuals’ though I use that term loosely. Lenin, Stalin, and Mao (among a host of others) belong to the second class. This class realizes that socialism/Marxism is a complete scam and unworkable. However, it is a useful doctrine for bamboozling those in the first class and thereby parting them from their money as well gaining their support for political office. I believe DL is in this second class. He uses Marxism purely for political gain. Castro and Chavez are also in this category. They mouth the Marxist words but are only interested in money and power and use this ideology toward those ends. They are of course very careful to never spill the beans that they are no longer ‘true believers’ lest the con be spoiled.
I believe that DL no longer believes in his heart he is doing anything for the poor or unfortunate or even cares to do so. He knows he is gaming the system for himself alone. This is why socialism/Marxism is so dangerous: it opens the door to sociopaths to gain entry to the seats of power. Once there, they are almost impossible to unseat because of the useless idiots keeping them in power. Once these monsters gain power, well, you know the history.
Do you think Pelosi, Reid, and many other Dems truly care about the poor? Maybe once they did but now it is about money and power – at any cost. Any underpriveledged class is now only a pawn used to gain power or money. So there are two levels of pawns here: any victim class and the useful idiot pawns. The sociopaths sit on the top pulling the strings and reaping all of the benefits, throwing just enough morsels to the other pawns to keep the game going.
Friday, April 2, 2010
Friday pontification
Anyone else find it interesting that a week after "health care reform" passed, we witnessed a Fed raid on a "right-wing/Christian" militia plus a four high-profile editorials (Rich, Krugman, et al) denouncing Tea Partiers as a group of neanderthal, racist, homophobes?
Doesn't this just reek of a well-orchestrated hit job by Dear Leader and (H)is Acolytes in the Legacy Media? It doesn't really pass the smell taste...instead it seems to be an effort to turn the criticism from that of the aforementioned Liberal Intellectuals to that of the "messenger (the messenger being Dear Leader's critics)."
It seems too well-timed to me: a raid on a right-wing militia coupled with liberal editorials.
Doesn't this just reek of a well-orchestrated hit job by Dear Leader and (H)is Acolytes in the Legacy Media? It doesn't really pass the smell taste...instead it seems to be an effort to turn the criticism from that of the aforementioned Liberal Intellectuals to that of the "messenger (the messenger being Dear Leader's critics)."
It seems too well-timed to me: a raid on a right-wing militia coupled with liberal editorials.
Thursday, April 1, 2010
The twisted world liberals have forced us to live...April 1st edition
More twisted thoughts from liberals…
I’m reading the following article, http://www.freedomworks.org/publications/the-war-on-poverty-turns-40, and when I came to this section, I had a bit of an epiphany:
“An America based on limited government and unlimited opportunity—an America that rewards the hard work and initiative of its citizens—will not suffer from widespread poverty.”
Only in a liberals’ world are we rewarding laziness, entitlement, and lack of initative. In the “real world,” their opposites are what really propel people to success. IN A LIBERALS’ world, we are punishing success and rewarding the opposite.
WHY IS THIS? Is this because liberals perceive the fruits of our labor as undeserved? Ill-gotten? “Unfair?”
It's as if liberals, in so many facets but in particular economic ones, refuse to face the facts: hard-work, lower taxes, a vibrant PRIVATE sector, and MORE freedom, results in a healthy economy.
Instead, we're bombarded with increased government and higher taxes as well more intrusion from the feds. .GOV chooses to create and enforce more regulations, mandates, and laws in order to social engineer the country THEY want; one that defies common sense and good judgment.
All because an America of hard work is one they dislike.
Liberals see ALL wealth as evil and only obtained through illegal or immoral means. To them there are no such things as ‘fruits of labor.’ The concept simply doesn’t make sense in their world. Since wealth is all ill-gotten, it is ‘moral’ to tax it for the public good, to compensate for the ‘evil’ aspect of how the wealth was obtained. Wealth is never attained by hard, honest work; that is impossible in Marxist theory.
This is bogus of course. Our country was built by letting people keep as much of the fruits of their labor as possible and letting THEM determine what to do with said fruits. This has led to a strong work ethic (.gov doesn’t steal your fruits) and a sense of pride and honor. It also led to many people starting small businesses or innovative businesses and building our country into an economic powerhouse IN SPITE of FDR and the Dems.
The work ethic is disappearing now because .gov is taxing everything and giving it to the poor (minus their cut, of course), so why labor? In fact, it is better to be poor and live off .gov largesse. Again, the power of propaganda at work, destroying our society. Also, taxation takes away the capital that individuals need to start small or innovative businesses, hence our economic decline.
Unless we begin to shrink government all all levels right now, we are doomed. It may already be too late though. Also, the propaganda poisoning so many people has made them dependent and they do not know how to work or gain the fruits of hard labor. We’ve really messed things up…bigtime. Even if .gov shrinks, many in the population would not know what to do. Dot gov has not given her citizens the tools they need for self-sufficiency or prosperity. Instead they’ve stuck a needle in our veins and pumped in the addictive drug called welfare…all for our own good, of course. Watch out when that needle comes up empty.
Written by Todd Anthony and CodLiverOilGuy
I’m reading the following article, http://www.freedomworks.org/publications/the-war-on-poverty-turns-40, and when I came to this section, I had a bit of an epiphany:
“An America based on limited government and unlimited opportunity—an America that rewards the hard work and initiative of its citizens—will not suffer from widespread poverty.”
Only in a liberals’ world are we rewarding laziness, entitlement, and lack of initative. In the “real world,” their opposites are what really propel people to success. IN A LIBERALS’ world, we are punishing success and rewarding the opposite.
WHY IS THIS? Is this because liberals perceive the fruits of our labor as undeserved? Ill-gotten? “Unfair?”
It's as if liberals, in so many facets but in particular economic ones, refuse to face the facts: hard-work, lower taxes, a vibrant PRIVATE sector, and MORE freedom, results in a healthy economy.
Instead, we're bombarded with increased government and higher taxes as well more intrusion from the feds. .GOV chooses to create and enforce more regulations, mandates, and laws in order to social engineer the country THEY want; one that defies common sense and good judgment.
All because an America of hard work is one they dislike.
Liberals see ALL wealth as evil and only obtained through illegal or immoral means. To them there are no such things as ‘fruits of labor.’ The concept simply doesn’t make sense in their world. Since wealth is all ill-gotten, it is ‘moral’ to tax it for the public good, to compensate for the ‘evil’ aspect of how the wealth was obtained. Wealth is never attained by hard, honest work; that is impossible in Marxist theory.
This is bogus of course. Our country was built by letting people keep as much of the fruits of their labor as possible and letting THEM determine what to do with said fruits. This has led to a strong work ethic (.gov doesn’t steal your fruits) and a sense of pride and honor. It also led to many people starting small businesses or innovative businesses and building our country into an economic powerhouse IN SPITE of FDR and the Dems.
The work ethic is disappearing now because .gov is taxing everything and giving it to the poor (minus their cut, of course), so why labor? In fact, it is better to be poor and live off .gov largesse. Again, the power of propaganda at work, destroying our society. Also, taxation takes away the capital that individuals need to start small or innovative businesses, hence our economic decline.
Unless we begin to shrink government all all levels right now, we are doomed. It may already be too late though. Also, the propaganda poisoning so many people has made them dependent and they do not know how to work or gain the fruits of hard labor. We’ve really messed things up…bigtime. Even if .gov shrinks, many in the population would not know what to do. Dot gov has not given her citizens the tools they need for self-sufficiency or prosperity. Instead they’ve stuck a needle in our veins and pumped in the addictive drug called welfare…all for our own good, of course. Watch out when that needle comes up empty.
Written by Todd Anthony and CodLiverOilGuy
Wednesday, March 31, 2010
Is there another Reagan out there?
James Pethokoukis penned this article, opining that the slumping economy could remain sluggish for 20 years. For those of us old enough to remember, we experienced a similar period of economic stagnation during the 1970's, propagated by notions of price controls (a Nixonian brainfart), higher taxes, regulations, increased government meddling, etc; only to see Ronald Reagan literally ride to the rescue by lowering taxes and encouraging the private sector.
Well guess what? We're witnessing the same tired liberal dogma in practice again, this time by one Barack Obama. My question is: does America have another Ronald Reagan it can offer us?
We obviously need someone who can inspire the country, reinvigorate our economy, start exercising some financial restrain (and thus, force Congress to do so). The entitlement nonsense must end, as must this reluctance to cultivate our natural resources.
Unfortunately, when I look at potential "next Reagans," I see few noteworthy candidates; Sarah Palin (too polarizing); Tim Pawlenty (maybe); Bobby Jindal (choked on the national stage in his last big spot); Paul Ryan (perhaps); Jim Demint (perhaps).
Who else is there?
Well guess what? We're witnessing the same tired liberal dogma in practice again, this time by one Barack Obama. My question is: does America have another Ronald Reagan it can offer us?
We obviously need someone who can inspire the country, reinvigorate our economy, start exercising some financial restrain (and thus, force Congress to do so). The entitlement nonsense must end, as must this reluctance to cultivate our natural resources.
Unfortunately, when I look at potential "next Reagans," I see few noteworthy candidates; Sarah Palin (too polarizing); Tim Pawlenty (maybe); Bobby Jindal (choked on the national stage in his last big spot); Paul Ryan (perhaps); Jim Demint (perhaps).
Who else is there?
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