Symposium topic: Dear Leader's desired class war

Todd Anthony and CodLiverOilGuy (CLOG) discuss the upcoming entitlement crisis as well as Dear Leader's desire to wage a class war between the "have's" and the "have nots."

Todd: http://hotair.com/archives/2010/04/09/representation-without-taxation/

Doc Zero nails it again…

“Let’s explore the idea as a thought experiment. If taxation without representation was an outrage that sparked the Revolution, why is representation without taxation acceptable? It’s logical to suggest that only those who pay for government benefits should have a vote in selecting our representatives. Allowing net tax consumers to vote seems like an inherently dangerous practice, given their numbers – we’ve reached the point where 47% of American households pay no income tax – and their strong motivation to support politicians who promise endlessly increasing benefits. When politicians loaded with vast public funds to purchase votes meet up with a population eager to sell its votes for benefits, a grim marketplace will inevitably develop.

This is a formula not only guaranteed, but designed, to produce an unsustainable entitlement state. The high-rolling politician secures victory by defeating the productive, and creating a dependency class large enough to smother taxpayer revolts at the ballot box. Restricting the vote to those who pay into the system would break this fiscal short circuit. It would also tend to cut down on voter fraud, since the IRS puts a great deal of effort into tracking people who owe taxes.”

The liberals know what they’re doing…they’re creating an army of welfare zombies that will fight tooth and nail to ensure they get that government check and satellite TV.

CLOG: Wow. He did nail it. So does this mean that DL and the libs have bought enough votes now to stay permanently in office and our only recourse as productive citizens is to leave the country? I was reading a story this morning about South Africa, how all of the young people, especially the whites, are leaving the country due to the high level of crime. Is this what we have to look forward to for our future? SA will, of course, follow the path of Zimbabwe (formerly the productive Rhodesia) and fall to pieces because the whites are the only ones that know how to farm or manage.

Doling out votes based on incomes is dangerous too since you have to draw a line somewhere as to vote eligibility and whoever draws that line has a lot of power. The survival of our country is based on the idea of individual citizen responsibility and clearly a large part is acting irresponsibly. That irresponsibility has been encouraged by equally irresponsible politicians for decades now. So what do we do at this point? How do we encourage the return of individual responsibility? Is it even possible.

It is very sad to watch our country fall apart but so many citizens have drunk the O’lade and do not seem interested in building up our country, only in taking. Also, by destroying the foundation of this country, they lay a new foundation, most likely for fascism.

Todd: “It is very sad to watch our country fall apart but so many citizens have drunk the O’lade and do not seem interested in building up our country, only in taking. Also, by destroying the foundation of this country, they lay a new foundation, most likely for fascism.”

Exactly; this is the change to which our Dear Leader was referring. All of the O-zombies mistakenly believed the hopeychange he referenced was “cute” and “catchy…” no no no…he wanted to change America, from a capitalistic society to that of a welfare state. There’s no doubt in my mind that this was a concerted effort as well…we drank the O-ADE/O’lade. Many people have realized the error of her ways; many have not and still stubbornly cling to the notion that this “man” can “fix” things.

CLOG: < many have not and still stubbornly cling to the notion that this “man” can “fix” things > In reading comments to various articles, I see this attitude expressed a lot: give him a chance, he’s better than Bush, HC is progress, the nuclear treaty is a step toward peace, and so on. They see this way forward as a good thing, ignoring history and certainly ignoring the conservatives who are shouting about the dangers. They are locked inside their faith and I do not believe many will give that faith up even if it costs them their lives, so great is their faith in DL. Others who lack faith are just along for the ride, acting like parasites. This group doesn’t care whether we’re capitalist or Communist as long as they have gas in their tank and a burger stuffed in their mouth.

< I don’t know about you, but I ain’t leavin’> I don’t want to leave either but I have seriously considered it. GD1 was bad but we had a working society. GD2 promises to be worse but then in the midst of a dysfunctional society with an incompetent, even dangerous leader. When I think about the times we live in, I wonder if anywhere on the globe is truly safe. It may look better now (Canada comes to mind) but will it always be so? If I felt there was a ‘new’ part to the world where a man could get a fresh start, I might seriously consider it, not only for myself, but as an anchor in case my family wanted to leave later. Those new lands no longer exist so I am staying for now and I will try to do as much to fix these problems as I can.